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695

VIIuleau ed blvos andidosa yna reddede guteea of weży a diłw

„nottoennoo aidt ut smatra fatog radðrut emo „ebnej od qu duq

Iernut edź ob nas od tard andažniam remnizal Snobised tekið aft

II .nao todosïdnos yna nacīð Kloumi♫ regando miðnsa raq 3£ ¤TOW

esenland Isolmenove brs Esotmonovo vitainda no mur ad xrow melt

-Jostnoo sit soute tneme data-zero na agadisq don at alɗt menti

majava Jostýnos sát to syatnavba adt „bevau ats as¿tong alno-

Todost galmısvog adt »amið to gaivan ni yƐİnaming al srotsTant

nso enti add to Just add Ils Ti bae Ionnut sdið að sækl midð mi

gnives to egatnavba edi (at Isonut add wroteď IIow beżsiquos ed

.evolvɗo Jon at Lennut sat sqeoxs golddyas vot advantnoo ed amis

to jud exit to noitaemp a ton al erotereɗt sumai ta suloq sift

Vidaloergqa anob ad vilset nao stow add vocitnitw -1.MI¥ ‚†HOD

SÃI can of axli Blvoria I (d) od tzen galetut-

rento) atosrdnog eyrað „stetet sort „TM doldw of anoitoutjuni

(avno zalimte vo Iennut #lodw add not doærfnos a naci matuos to

-nevoð add to moltonse end dittw oðal beredne eď sesinong I nao

velv ni Jud,(a) rabou diiw tineb need theoria end (0)

JABANTAVOB Sand VTARRsoen arom sdt IIa-ni si inemetade nidi to

,antoq aidi no Miondi taldan od síða eð Biroda

OTA STONÎ .adoæitnoð "Isnnwt saw bezspoalb #nioq txen oft .*

art bise asyX .M Jud (2#s2 8£} addgna! Iake Vier Jusaeng da

two eld to eno dółw toærðnoo a sånt beredne vitneset bad

ejat beltlosɖe a da inkoms betimiinu da tok (sasaid") aroostevő

-ni SH .solton u'xoow a ta obin radzis no sidanimrod doot req

si ti fædd now hottam aida ni yšiuoiTTih aid tarið au bearro)-

-roque doum na bevlovni fro› mát ssentɗð a od domiźnod a tel

Jel en 11,12sta nwo aid yď modstrobar galed 21 as nolaiv-

anfyriso to eldagno erow yani aronil naeqozuɛ of anoitoes IImen

Tevewoď saso reátisa al .notelvioque befistab juodsiw duo #t

naw etedt „Brow SA♪ to sanea Invan edo ni Jostindo yas Oredit asw

vtiquons on,bstivni naw noifitaqmos or rebnet aliduq on

betleogeb

deposited, and the week's notice system enabled either side to terminate. It is in fact rather a system of payment by piece-work than a contract. As the nature of the work varies constantly (rock being met with in the top heading when there was none in the bottom heading and so on) and as these persons, whether European or Chinese, who accept this piece-work system are working men with no capital, not only is frequent (weekly) payment necessary in order that they may pay their men, but if any unexpected obstacle is met with, the terms must be relaxed for the 'Contractor' could not afford the loss.

The Chief Resident Engineer therefore demanded a freer hand in making these piece-work bargains (misnamed "Contracts") and complained that the system of audit was such as to tie his hands and over-burden him with book work. He desired to be able to give bonuses for accelerated progress, to relax conditions and increase payment if necessary without reference.

He urged that Audit rules applicable to works from Revenue were not applicable to works from Capital Account and that in India wholly different rules were made in the one case from those which governed the other.

The Hon. Director of Public Works suggested that the Chief Resident Engineer should name the sum agreed upon for the piece-work and that if he desired any increase of the payment, a recommendation to that effect approved by the Governor would suffice for the Auditor's requirements.

I agreed that any means by which unnecessary clerical work could be reduced was highly desirable, especially for instance that the signature (over a certificate) of a responsible officer at the foot of a pay roll of labourers was sufficient instead of requiring the mark of each illiterate.

I look indeed on the latter system as an inducement to, instead of a check on, a fraudulent person. It was agreed to refer this point to the Hon. Treasurer and the Local Auditor for report as to what means might be adopted to meet Mr. Ives's requirements and reduce accounting work. They will be good enough to consult with him.

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695 VIIuleau ed blvos andidosa yna reddede guteea of weży a diłw „nottoennoo aidt ut smatra fatog radðrut emo „ebnej od qu duq Iernut edź ob nas od tard andažniam remnizal Snobised tekið aft II .nao todosïdnos yna nacīð Kloumi♫ regando miðnsa raq ¤TOW esenland Isolmenove brs Esotmonovo vitainda no mur ad xrow melt -Jostnoo sit soute tneme data-zero na agadisq don at alɗt menti majava Jostýnos sát to syatnavba adt „bevau ats as¿tong alno- Todost galmısvog adt »amið to gaivan ni yƐİnaming al srotsTant nso enti add to Just add Ils Ti bae Ionnut sdið sækl midð mi gnives to egatnavba edi (at Isonut add wroteď IIow beżsiquos ed .evolvɗo Jon at Lennut sat sqeoxs golddyas vot advantnoo ed amis to jud exit to noitaemp a ton al erotereɗt sumai ta suloq sift Vidaloergqa anob ad vilset nao stow add vocitnitw -1.MI¥ ‚†HOD SÃI can of axli Blvoria I (d) od tzen galetut- rento) atosrdnog eyrað „stetet sort „TM doldw of anoitoutjuni (avno zalimte vo Iennut #lodw add not doærfnos a naci matuos to -nevoð add to moltonse end dittw oðal beredne sesinong I nao velv ni Jud,(a) rabou diiw tineb need theoria end (0) JABANTAVOB Sand VTARRsoen arom sdt IIa-ni si inemetade nidi to ,antoq aidi no Miondi taldan od síða Biroda OTA STONÎ .adoæitnoð "Isnnwt saw bezspoalb #nioq txen oft .* art bise asyX .M Jud (2#s2 8£} addgna! Iake Vier Jusaeng da two eld to eno dółw toærðnoo a sånt beredne vitneset bad ejat beltlosɖe a da inkoms betimiinu da tok (sasaid") aroostevő -ni SH .solton u'xoow a ta obin radzis no sidanimrod doot req si ti fædd now hottam aida ni yšiuoiTTih aid tarið au bearro)- -roque doum na bevlovni fro› mát ssentɗð a od domiźnod a tel Jel en 11,12sta nwo aid modstrobar galed 21 as nolaiv- anfyriso to eldagno erow yani aronil naeqozuɛ of anoitoes IImen Tevewoď saso reátisa al .notelvioque befistab juodsiw duo #t naw etedt „Brow SA♪ to sanea Invan edo ni Jostindo yas Oredit asw vtiquons on,bstivni naw noifitaqmos or rebnet aliduq on betleogeb deposited, and the week's notice system enabled either side to terminate. It is in fact rather a system of payment by piece-work than a contract. As the nature of the work varies constantly (rock being met with in the top heading when there was none in the bottom heading and so on) and as these persons, whether European or Chinese, who accept this piece-work system are working men with no capital, not only is frequent (weekly) payment necessary in order that they may pay their men, but if any unexpected obstacle is met with, the terms must be relaxed for the 'Contractor' could not afford the loss. The Chief Resident Engineer therefore demanded a freer hand in making these piece-work bargains (misnamed "Contracts") and complained that the system of audit was such as to tie his hands and over-burden him with book work. He desired to be able to give bonuses for accelerated progress, to relax conditions and increase payment if necessary without reference. He urged that Audit rules applicable to works from Revenue were not applicable to works from Capital Account and that in India wholly different rules were made in the one case from those which governed the other. The Hon. Director of Public Works suggested that the Chief Resident Engineer should name the sum agreed upon for the piece-work and that if he desired any increase of the payment, a recommendation to that effect approved by the Governor would suffice for the Auditor's requirements. I agreed that any means by which unnecessary clerical work could be reduced was highly desirable, especially for instance that the signature (over a certificate) of a responsible officer at the foot of a pay roll of labourers was sufficient instead of requiring the mark of each illiterate. I look indeed on the latter system as an inducement to, instead of a check on, a fraudulent person. It was agreed to refer this point to the Hon. Treasurer and the Local Auditor for report as to what means might be adopted to meet Mr. Ives's requirements and reduce accounting work. They will be good enough to consult with him. On the more general question
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695 VIIuleau ed blvos andidosa yna reddede guteea of weży a diłw „nottoennoo aidt ut smatra fatog radðrut emo „ebnej od qu duq Iernut edź ob nas od tard andažniam remnizal Snobised tekið aft II .nao todosïdnos yna nacīð Kloumi♫ regando miðnsa raq ¤TOW esenland Isolmenove brs Esotmonovo vitainda no mur ad xrow melt -Jostnoo sit soute tneme data-zero na agadisq don at alɗt menti majava Jostýnos sát to syatnavba adt „bevau ats as¿tong alno- Todost galmısvog adt »amið to gaivan ni yƐİnaming al srotsTant nso enti add to Just add Ils Ti bae Ionnut sdið sækl midð mi gnives to egatnavba edi (at Isonut add wroteď IIow beżsiquos ed .evolvɗo Jon at Lennut sat sqeoxs golddyas vot advantnoo ed amis to jud exit to noitaemp a ton al erotereɗt sumai ta suloq sift Vidaloergqa anob ad vilset nao stow add vocitnitw -1.MI¥ ‚†HOD SÃI can of axli Blvoria I (d) od tzen galetut- rento) atosrdnog eyrað „stetet sort „TM doldw of anoitoutjuni (avno zalimte vo Iennut #lodw add not doærfnos a naci matuos to -nevoð add to moltonse end dittw oðal beredne sesinong I nao velv ni Jud,(a) rabou diiw tineb need theoria end (0) JABANTAVOB Sand VTARRsoen arom sdt IIa-ni si inemetade nidi to ,antoq aidi no Miondi taldan od síða Biroda OTA STONÎ .adoæitnoð "Isnnwt saw bezspoalb #nioq txen oft .* art bise asyX .M Jud (2#s2 8£} addgna! Iake Vier Jusaeng da two eld to eno dółw toærðnoo a sånt beredne vitneset bad ejat beltlosɖe a da inkoms betimiinu da tok (sasaid") aroostevő -ni SH .solton u'xoow a ta obin radzis no sidanimrod doot req si ti fædd now hottam aida ni yšiuoiTTih aid tarið au bearro)- -roque doum na bevlovni fro› mát ssentɗð a od domiźnod a tel Jel en 11,12sta nwo aid modstrobar galed 21 as nolaiv- anfyriso to eldagno erow yani aronil naeqozuɛ of anoitoes IImen Tevewoď saso reátisa al .notelvioque befistab juodsiw duo #t naw etedt „Brow SA♪ to sanea Invan edo ni Jostindo yas Oredit asw vtiquons on,bstivni naw noifitaqmos or rebnet aliduq on betleogeb deposited, and the week's notice system enabled either side to terminate. It is in fact rather a system of payment by piece · work than a contract. As the nature of the work varies constant- -ly (rock being met with in the top heading when there was mone in the bottom heading and so on) and as these persons whether European or Chinese who accept this piece work system are working men with no capital not only is frequent (weekly) payment necessary in order that they may pay their men, but if any unexpected obstacle is met with the terms must be relaxed for the 'Contractor' could not afford the loss. The Chief Resident Engineer therefore demanded a freer hand in making these piece-work bargains (misnamed "Contracts") and complained that the system of audit was such as to tie his hands and over- -burden him with book work. He desired to be able to give bonus- -es for accelerated progress, to relax conditions and increase payment if necessary without reference. He urged that Audit rules applicable to works from Revenue were not applicable to works from Capital Account and that in India wholly different rules were made in the one case from those which governed the other. The Hon. Director of Public Works suggested that the Chief Resident Engineer should name the sum agreed upon for the piece-work and that if he desired any increase of the pay- -ment a recommendation to that effect approved by the Governor would suffice for the Auditor's requirements. .I agreed that any means by which unnecessary clerical work could be reduced was highly desirable, especially for instance that the signature (over a certificate) of a responsible officer at the foot of a · pay roll of labourers was sufficient instead of requiring the mark of each illiterate. I look indeed on the latter system as an inducement to instead of a check on a fraudulent person. It was agreed to refer this point to the Hon. Treasurer and the Local Auditor for report as to what means might be adopted to meet Mr. Ives's requirements and reduce accounting work. They will be good enough to consult with him. On the more general question
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695

VIIuleau ed blvos andidosa yna reddede guteea of weży a diłw

„nottoennoo aidt ut smatra fatog radðrut emo „ebnej od qu duq

Iernut edź ob nas od tard andažniam remnizal Snobised tekið aft

II .nao todosïdnos yna nacīð Kloumi♫ regando miðnsa raq 3£ ¤TOW

esenland Isolmenove brs Esotmonovo vitainda no mur ad xrow melt

-Jostnoo sit soute tneme data-zero na agadisq don at alɗt menti

majava Jostýnos sát to syatnavba adt „bevau ats as¿tong alno-

Todost galmısvog adt »amið to gaivan ni yƐİnaming al srotsTant

nso enti add to Just add Ils Ti bae Ionnut sdið að sækl midð mi

gnives to egatnavba edi (at Isonut add wroteď IIow beżsiquos ed

.evolvɗo Jon at Lennut sat sqeoxs golddyas vot advantnoo ed amis

to jud exit to noitaemp a ton al erotereɗt sumai ta suloq sift

Vidaloergqa anob ad vilset nao stow add vocitnitw -1.MI¥ ‚†HOD

SÃI can of axli Blvoria I (d) od tzen galetut-

rento) atosrdnog eyrað „stetet sort „TM doldw of anoitoutjuni

(avno zalimte vo Iennut #lodw add not doærfnos a naci matuos to

-nevoð add to moltonse end dittw oðal beredne eď sesinong I nao

velv ni Jud,(a) rabou diiw tineb need theoria end (0)

JABANTAVOB Sand VTARRsoen arom sdt IIa-ni si inemetade nidi to

,antoq aidi no Miondi taldan od síða eð Biroda

OTA STONÎ .adoæitnoð "Isnnwt saw bezspoalb #nioq txen oft .*

art bise asyX .M Jud (2#s2 8£} addgna! Iake Vier Jusaeng da

two eld to eno dółw toærðnoo a sånt beredne vitneset bad

ejat beltlosɖe a da inkoms betimiinu da tok (sasaid") aroostevő

-ni SH .solton u'xoow a ta obin radzis no sidanimrod doot req

si ti fædd now hottam aida ni yšiuoiTTih aid tarið au bearro)-

-roque doum na bevlovni fro› mát ssentɗð a od domiźnod a tel

Jel en 11,12sta nwo aid yď modstrobar galed 21 as nolaiv-

anfyriso to eldagno erow yani aronil naeqozuɛ of anoitoes IImen

Tevewoď saso reátisa al .notelvioque befistab juodsiw duo #t

naw etedt „Brow SA♪ to sanea Invan edo ni Jostindo yas Oredit asw

vtiquons on,bstivni naw noifitaqmos or rebnet aliduq on

betleogeb

deposited, and the week's notice system enabled either side to

terminate. It is in fact rather a system of payment by piece ·

work than a contract. As the nature of the work varies constant-

-ly (rock being met with in the top heading when there was

mone in the bottom heading and so on) and as these persons

whether European or Chinese who accept this piece work system are working men with no capital not only is frequent (weekly)

payment necessary in order that they may pay their men, but if any unexpected obstacle is met with the terms must be relaxed

for the 'Contractor' could not afford the loss. The Chief

Resident Engineer therefore demanded a freer hand in making

these piece-work bargains (misnamed "Contracts") and complained that the system of audit was such as to tie his hands and over-

-burden him with book work. He desired to be able to give bonus-

-es for accelerated progress, to relax conditions and increase payment if necessary without reference. He urged that Audit rules applicable to works from Revenue were not applicable to works from Capital Account and that in India wholly different rules were made in the one case from those which governed the

other.

The Hon. Director of Public Works suggested that the

Chief Resident Engineer should name the sum agreed upon for the piece-work and that if he desired any increase of the pay- -ment a recommendation to that effect approved by the Governor would suffice for the Auditor's requirements. .I agreed that any means by which unnecessary clerical work could be reduced was highly desirable, especially for instance that the signature (over a certificate) of a responsible officer at the foot of a

· pay roll of labourers was sufficient instead of requiring the mark of each illiterate. I look indeed on the latter system as an inducement to instead of a check on a fraudulent person. It was agreed to refer this point to the Hon. Treasurer and the Local Auditor for report as to what means might be adopted to meet Mr. Ives's requirements and reduce accounting work. They will be good enough to consult with him. On the more general

question

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